Anyone try this host out?

daveellis · 05-01-2003, 07:12 PM

Has anyone tried bakahost? http://www.bakahost.com? They have some kick *** packages. $69.99 mo. for a mid range dedicated server! Let me know, cause I am about to snag a box if its that cheap.

daveellis · 05-01-2003, 07:45 PM

ok, well aparently it is 69.99 with 250 setup fee. that kinda sucks. still cheap though.... anyone know anyplace where they dont have a setup fee?

northwind · 05-05-2003, 11:04 PM

This is the problem I see with them. A 3 month advance payment. =P. Also, for a bit more you can find a dedicated server with a lot more ram as well as reliability. That is if you know what you are doing. =)

daveellis · 05-06-2003, 03:19 AM

I think I am going to try bakahost out. They responded to my emails in less then 10 minutes. The 3 month is not an advance payment aparently. It is an equipment fee with three month initial. This is understandable. I would rather be with a smaller host as it is. Then I would not have to deal with fighting 500 customer service people. If the service is cheap and good then I will stick with it.

Thanks for the input,

Dave

eHostSpace · 05-06-2003, 04:57 AM

If you're looking to host alot of domains and stuffs, i honestly have to say that the 69.99 isnt powerful enough for you ---
>> RAM: 256 MB
>> Bandwidth: 50GB

michaelfoo · 05-06-2003, 09:32 AM

First off, what processor is coming along with the Basic 1 package? They write only 1.3Ghz without listing out the processor model.

Second thing, do you know it is coming along with only Webmin panel? You should not go for their services if you are planning to start your own web hosting services because I don't think anyone will be interested in Webmin panel (Usermin)

Third thing, what is the Free Boot for? Do they limit you how many times can you boot the server? If they do, they 1 time is not enough if the server is really lousy.

The final thing. 50GB Bandwidth. How many sites can you host using 50GB? Well, I'd rather go for reseller plans.

No offence to bakahost.

admin@bakahost.com · 05-06-2003, 05:57 PM

>First off, what processor is coming along with the Basic 1 package? They
>write only 1.3Ghz without listing out the processor model.

1.3ghz or better Intel x86 based processor.
It could also be a 1.5ghz or a 2.5ghz, depending on how nice we feel.

>Second thing, do you know it is coming along with only Webmin panel?

No, it comes with a basic install of whatever operating system that you would like installed. This means that SSH or Terminal Server would be turned on by default for remote access and administration. This is why the service is so low cost. We do only minimal configuration. Hence "Power Hosting, Power Users". We cater to users that would already know what they are doing, and basically just would like the bandwidth.

>You should not go for their services if you are planning to start your own
>web hosting services because I don't think anyone will be interested in
>Webmin panel (Usermin).

Webmin is server administraton software, not virtual hosting administration software. End users would never see this. We do offer Plesk and Ensim Virtual Hosting Administration Packages although they are not listed. As previously stated, most of our business is made hosting bandwidth clusters of machines for companies that would just like to be in a fast, secure datacenter.

>Third thing, what is the Free Boot for? Do they limit you how many times
>can you boot the server? If they do, they 1 time is not enough if the
>server is really lousy.

The free boot you are speaking of is a free REBOOT. We offer one reboot. This is if you were running an ircd or other service and hung the machine. We have had multiple times where someone had killed an SSHD process. This is a problem because it locks you out of the machine. This means that if the machine is not on a remote rebooting station, (that we give customers access to) then we have to call down to the data center and we have to tell one of our techs to go and reboot the machine. This means that it takes manpower, as well as configuration. There is no restriction on how many times you feel like rebooting the machine. You can do it 5000 times a day if it pleases you. If the machine hangs and you have to call us though. You can only expect not to pay for it once per month.

As previously stated; This is specifically why this is "Power Hosting" for people that do not want to be restricted by a control panel such as Plesk or Ensim. If you do not know what you are doing then I would suggest looking elsewhere. This was explained to Mr. Ellis from the get go, and he seemed to be rather impressed with the fact that he could have unrestricted, (as long as he does not break the T.O.S.) free reign of the machine.

Ensim and Plesk both turn the machine so upside down that if you would like to install an ircd, chat network, a server such as coldfusion, use it for development, a gaming server, or host a high speed backup server for your office, it can not be done due to restrictions or overhead with the front end "User Friendly" product.

>The final thing. 50GB Bandwidth. How many sites can you host using
>50GB? Well, I'd rather go for reseller plans.

50gigs of Transfer yes. 50 gigs of bandwidth? no.

50gigs is, as you would notice, on the bottom of the line plan. This plan would be for say, a small office that just needs off site backup, or for an individual that would like a high speed shell server, or to host as a gaming server, or even to host a single high load site. This is not for someone to start a virtual hosting company.

We also break down bandwidth into blocks. This means that people can buy block transfer or throughput if they would like to add on to the alloted traffic. A good 75% of our business is done on colocation and reselling. We cater (in many cases) to the companies that rent the servers, to people who want to start virtual hosting companies.

>No offence to bakahost.

None taken.

I hope this answered your questions. Mr. Ellis brought them up to me as well, and I explained if he did not feel comfortable with real server administration then our services would not be for him.

I will have to frequent this forum.

Good day,

admin@bakahost.com

hackers_ · 05-06-2003, 10:54 PM

I went with a dedicated server from bakahost about 4 months ago ,and it has proved to be a good investment... i put slackware on my server since thats what i know the best.. works great

eHostSpace · 05-08-2003, 04:25 AM

so in simple terms, the dedicate servers over at bakahost are not for virtual hosting purposes .. ?

admin@bakahost.com · 05-09-2003, 04:54 PM

eHostSpace,

> so in simple terms, the dedicate servers over at bakahost are not
> for virtual hosting purposes .. ?

No, Actually the dedicated servers are for Virtual Hosting, or for single highload site hosting, or a game server, or a development server, or a highspeed backup server, or whatever you would like.

The servers that we offer at bakahost are for people with a higher knowlege of unix and linux system administration. These are people who know how to operate at the command line level, install patches themselves, write their own shell scripts, install software, etc. We usually cater to companies that sell virtual hosting systems.

As previously stated we do offer Plesk and Ensim interfaces although most of our customers prefer not to use it.

"Ensim and Plesk both turn the machine so upside down that if you would like to install an ircd, chat network, a server such as coldfusion, use it for development, a gaming server, or host a high speed backup server for your office, it can not be done due to restrictions or overhead with the front end "User Friendly" product."

This is why we only offer BASE install systems. These systems come with only SSHD installed. NOTHING ELSE. No web server, no mail server, no database server etc. This means that the server can be whatever you want. NOT JUST a virtual hosting server.

Hope that answers your questions,

admin@bakahost.com